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New Park Along Brickell Avenue Coming Soon

March 27, 2010 by Lucas Lechuga
A few weeks ago, The Miami Herald reported that the city of Miami, along with the Hollo family, acquired a one-acre parcel along Brickell Avenue which will be converted into a park by the end of this year.  There has been a dire need for more green space in the Brickell area over the past couple of years as an influx of people have moved into the area.  I had a chance to take an aerial shot of the site yesterday afternoon while showing property at Santa Maria.

Brickell Park

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owneratinfinity

Guys, This new park is good news for brickell, however it’s too bad it’s not on the bay. However it is only 4 blocks from my building. I like very much the very upscale Brickell park that is on brickell ave and 5th st. Its on the south side of Icon and right on the bay. There is no actually parking for the park, however I guess you could take your chances and park next to the park in one of many empty spaces behind the church south of the park. I have been there many times (via my bike)… Read more »

Wild Bill

An expensive dog park that will be unusable after six months.

Mofo Tom

Whatever happened to the “Tibor Hollo park” that was supposed to go in the undeveloped lot on the bay at se 12th st? Did that just go away?

More green more better.

Samson

What’s in it for Hollo?

why bother

Two women stabbed at South Pointe Park; man arrested If this happened anywhere in downtown, the trolls would have had a field day shouting from the roof top how dangerous downtown is. Now they must be grinding their teeth as they cant say anything. Crime can happen anywhere. So the most high heaven SOFI had an incident. Lets see what these guys have to say. BY PARADISE AFSHAR [email protected] Two women were hospitalized late Saturday after they were stabbed at South Pointe Park in Miami Beach, police said. The women, who were not identified, were walking with a blanket wrapped… Read more »

DML

Why Bother:

Why are you putting this on a http://www.miamicondoinvestments.com blog? What in the world does this have to do with Miami Condos? This is news and people know how to read the newspapers. This has nothing to do with the Condo market in Miami. So I ask you, Why Bother?

Wild Bill

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl9Nzqy0TBU
Reggaeton riot in miami.

Miami and Miami Beach have so many problems it almost impossible to stop it. Every large park has had at least one attempted murder or fatality. Getting out of control.

Drew

DML- Considering Lucas ran a story last year on the grand opening of South Pointe Park and the positive effects related to the South of Fifth condo market, it is in fact relevant to the Miami condo market. why bother- Actually if you check the archives, much of the violent crime postings on this site had to do with South Beach crime, not downtown. Downtown/Midtown, etc has always had alot of crime so there’s no use posting info that is already common knowledge. The South Beach violent crime stories are interesting and relevant b/c that area has seen an uptick… Read more »

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owneratinfinity

Wild Bill. you said, Reggaeton riot in miami. Miami and Miami Beach have so many problems it almost impossible to stop it. Every large park has had at least one attempted murder or fatality. Getting out of control. —> I did not go the concert however at around 11:30pm/midnight I was on the merto mover that was filled with tons of young kids just getting out of the concert. They seemed pretty happy and well behaved too me. So I guess they recovered very quickly after their riot at the concert. —-> seeing how the Bayfront area was SO packed… Read more »

DJ

Any of the condos across from AA would be quite undesireable IMO. How about during winter music conference or ultra when you’ve got giant speakers blaring techno music until all hours of the morning. I can’t imagine how badly the sound must echo off of those huge condo buildings right across from the park.

Renter Tom

Drew – I have heard numerous concerns from residents of South Beach regarding the crime. Not surprisingly, more of the headline crime is not committed by residents…but that probably has always been the case. Was down there recently and it always strikes me as unconscionable that homeless/mentally ill/addicts are allowed to loiter like they do. It isn’t good for them or for the area. It, without a doubt, attracts and creates crime…whether petty theft type crimes, opportunity crimes against tourists, or allows other more sinister criminals to blend in. The “hanger outers” on the street are waiting to score to… Read more »

Makes Me Think

5 murders and several stabbings in less than 3 months in SB?
listening to some you would think major crimes happened only one week a year in SB.
I know there is a huge problems with the mentally ill, addicts and homeless that reside there year round. The crazed drug addicted homeless are there all year and they are a big problem. The MB police really needs to get a handle on the crime problem. People are not going to continue to shell out big bucks to visit a place where there is a perception of a crime problem.

Gixxer 1000

Wow, the people here never cease to amaze me. As usual most people completely over sensationalize social issues and make judgments based on feelings and not facts. Like when your 1000 times more likely to die on the way to the airport then in the actual flight but yet people have no problem driving without a seat belt but are completely freaked out about flying. It makes no sense. Here are the murders for ALL of MIAMI BEACH over the last few years and the corresponding population: 2000 Murders 6 Population 87,933 2001 Murders 6 Population 88,158 2002 Murders 7… Read more »

owneratinfinity

Gixxer 1000,

Your said:
For example one of the murders this year was a murder suicide where a guy killed his wife before killing himself
—> that happen in the building (Akoya) on the beach when I was renting before I brought my condo in infinity. It happen after I moved out.

—>what is the murder stats for miami zip codes (33132 – midtown) and (33129 and 33131 – brickell)????? Please advise.

Gixxer 1000

“Miami and Miami Beach have so many problems it almost impossible to stop it. Every large park has had at least one attempted murder or fatality. Getting out of control.” This is the type of over exaggeration that I’m talking about. And you might want to rethink what the word riot means. Nothing on that video even came close. Has anyone here actually lived downtown in a major city before??? A canceled concert, traffic, noise in a downtown major city. You mean downtown is not like the suburbs??? Well duh. I know this whole sky rise living is new to… Read more »

Gixxer 1000

owneratinfinity, Crime is recorded by zip codes, its recorded by police department. So I wouldn’t be able to tell you individual zip codes. But the downtown police department is the Miami Police Department and there were 63 murders in within the city limits. An annual report shows that 4.76% or 3 people were murdered in all of downtown. In Wynwood/Edgewater (Midtown) accounted for 6.35% or 4 people. Again by the time you take out people murdered by people they know or people murdered who were involved with a crime themselves they threat to the every day Joe is nil. Can… Read more »

F-35

Gixxer 1000, I don’t know what your nefarious goal really is, but your dogged pursuit of truth and objectivity seems to already have put Renter Tom out of commission. I’m hearing that the poor chap is in the deepest bout of depression, unable to hit the “Enter” key. The last audible words to have come out of his mouth were “Please find me a good realtor”. Then silence and blank stare. If you continue in this vein, this blog may lose its most miserable and mindlessly repetitive contributors who are already visibly running out of energy. Fighting reality and common… Read more »

DJ

Gixxer, bravo to you my friend.

It’s refreshing to see someone who actually bases their arguments off of facts and logic. I’ve been going back a forth with a few friends (of the teabag party persuasion) on political issues recently, and it’s infuriating trying to reason with someone who refuses to be objective and relies solely on emotional talking point to support their views.

JL

Gixxer posted: “You see people here complaining about condos being next to the highway??? Do you think developers are going to stop building because a highway is there? Of course not. Now that building will obviously cost less than a comparable building away from the freeway but that is the nature of the market. No sh!t you can hear noise from your balcony, ” ——————- Gixxer, you start your argument with a false assumption. Do you realize there are 4 comparable condos in that vicinity and the one right on top of the freeway is the condo that wants to… Read more »

owneratinfinity

Gixxer 1000,

I agree with f-35, it does seem since you joined this blog there are less carzy peolpe posting dumb and insane comments on this blog. Keep up the good wook.

It’s perfect day here in Miami, I am going to have a beer on my balcony and enjoy my view.

mishka

Gixxer 1000, “A quick look at a map and it’s obvious that Miami cant expand anymore. Population density is only going to increase. If you think 20 years from now Miami’s downtown is only going to be composed of the most luxury buildings you see now then you’re fooling yourself.” That is very correct. A few miles to the west is everglades, water immediately to East and there is absolutely not much space north-south. It is very likely that this city will be a high density population center very soon. F35, Even I noticed that. many champions of Miami RE… Read more »

JL

Understanding Miami’s Crime Stats. 1) Miami-Dade/Metro-Dade (the cars with the green stripe and portrayed in the “Bad Boys” movies) is the largest police force in Miami-Dade and has jurisdiction over unincorporated areas of Miami-Dade and the Port of Miami and the airport, although they quite often work with police forces of incorporated areas like the City of Miami. 2) After the Miami-Dade police force, the 2nd largest police force in Miami-Dade is the (City of) Miami police force. 3) Downtown Brickell falls within The (City of) Miami Police Force 4) The upshot is, it may be possible to be arrested… Read more »

mishka

JL,
Ihave been trying to find a map of miami that shows the borders of the city of miami as oppsoed to miami-dade as a whole. nowhere on the internet could I find such map. Is there a map you know of that clearly shows the boundaries of the city of miami and other incorporated cities in the larger miami dade county map? anyone?

F-35

I LOVE Wild Bill’s ability to get worked up about the cute little park. Even though his rant is reduced to a single sentence, it’s still very impressive.

owneratinfinity,
let me quote you a Paragraph 101 from Wild Bill’s “How to whine about everything” worst-selling manual:

“What many consider to be a “perfect day in Miami” is actually a laser beam of harmful UV radiation. And drinking beer on one’s balcony only adds potential liver damage to already high risk of skin cancer. Which proves that your condo is still overpriced”.

Gixxer 1000

JL, “I’ll post a FDLE link shortly to show how to get accurate city/county crime numbers.” Give me a break. You are correct, I missed the motor vehicle theft column and everything should be shifted over one. Considering all my numbers exactly match FDLE numbers you would think it would be obvious that’s where they came from. Why not simply say “hey I noticed you transposed the numbers wrong and should be this”. And by the way the MPD statistics I presented are from MPD (MPD sends UCR reports to FDLE). FDLE will only tell you what happened in that… Read more »

Kramer

JL – i think Gixxer was talking about “Blue” being next to the highway not Marquis. Gixxer – yea – your right. This ain’t the suburbs and that is exactly why i want to be downtown. It’s the pace and the pulse and the convenience of no car and the walkability that appeals to me. Having lived in NYC myself – some people just won’t understand that appeal. Anyway with the new buildings having these hurricane resistant windows you would be amazed at how little if any noise you hear after you retreat to your apartment 30 or 40 storys… Read more »

DJ

owneratinfiniti (#19),

I just watched the sun set over the water from my balcony, all while polishing off a few cold Blue Moons, a good cigar in one hand, and the Greatful Dead playing in the background.

Life is good.

Renter Tom

The bears are not dead in Miami….just can’t post! For whatever reason….posts do not show up. Either a technical issue or censorship???

Renter Tom

We are NOT at the bottom for housing prices yet in the Miami area! Fact. Wait and see…

F-35

Renter Tom,
where is your energy, your confidence, your fire in the belly, your quick trigger, your ability to concoct the most elaborate lies? What the hell happened to you, man?
“I’m not dead yet” – is that all you could come up with?
Pick up the slack, dude. Spin it like you mean it. Manufacture your own facts. Do whatever you have to, but please -por favor – entertain us more.

Renter Tom

Apparently, if you don’t register, you can’t post. And even so, the posts still get waiting for moderation. That’s gonna be a downer for the blog in general.

DJ – You sure that was a cigar? Oh wait, this isn’t California.

Renter Tom

Don’t let this happen to your neighborhood or condo… http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hemet30-2010mar30,0,7301923.story “From bucolic bliss to ‘gated ghetto’ Hemet’s Willowalk tract was family-friendly. Then the recession hit.” “Reporting from Hemet – The gated community in Hemet doesn’t seem like the best place for Eddie and Maria Lopez to raise their family anymore. Vandals knocked out the streetlight in front of the Lopezes’ five-bedroom home and then took advantage of the darkness to try to steal a van. Cars are parked four deep in the driveway next door, where a handful of men rent rooms. And up and down their block of handsome… Read more »

Renter Tom

Renter Tom is right yet again….two years running, renting at 1/2 price, banking $80K AND avoiding the price declines of hundreds of thousands of dollars…..that’s real money folks, pretty soon, despite paying $35K-$40K per year in rent, the real savings is AT LEAST $250K+++ and I will benefit from any eventual price appreciation going forward. Just wait for the fed to stop buying up mortgages….23 hours and counting…. For whoever or whatever F-35 troll is (yeah, home prices are gonna just skyrocket tomorrow in Florida and esp. South Florida afterall Miami is hemmed in by the Everglades…..hahahahahahhahahahahahha…..yeah and I got… Read more »

F-35

Renter Tom WAS right, but the little bonehead ISN’t right anymore. Even stopped clock is right twice a day – and so is Renter Tom.
It’s being right CONSISTENTLY that really counts, and on that front Renter Tom ain’t looking too good, because Tommy simply doesn’t know when to quit.
Yo, Renter, do you know when that 30% RE drop – from these levels – finally start?
I just cannot wait.

Joe

I love how Mr. Statistics, a.k.a. Gixxer 1000, posted massively incorrect crime data but then *still* pretended the incorrect, inflated numbers were nothing to worry about.

ONLY *405* RAPES in MIAMI BEACH!
(Actual number: 50)

ONLY *1,279* AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS IN MIAMI BEACH!
(Actual number: 529)

Surprise, surprise — It appears Mr. Gixxer 1000 has an agenda here just like the bears.

Carlos

More wonderful news from the sunshine state..recovery? lolol ECONOMY Florida lags behind recovery Two new reports suggest Florida is a straggler on the road to economic recovery, as consumers remain dour and home prices struggle to find their footing. BY JIM WYSS [email protected] Florida’s consumer confidence took a hit and a key real-estate indicator slipped, as two reports released Tuesday suggested the Sunshine State is struggling to keep up with the national recovery. On Tuesday, the University of Central Florida’s Bureau of Economic and Business Research said the state’s consumer confidence index in March fell two points to 70 —… Read more »

Gixxer 1000

Joe, What do you not get about the fact that I simply copy and pasted the numbers wrong. I think its obvious I was looking at the same FDLE numbers. And I believe the main point was about murders which were correct. In contrast, in 2010 there have already been 61 reported rapes and 625 aggravated assaults in Manhattan alone, and their real estate seems to be doing fine. After I posted the numbers wrong I pointed out that burglaries were the only one that was reaching a statistical level of concern and I was wrong it should have been… Read more »

Carlos

WITH SO MANY GOOD REASONS TO CARRY BUSINESSES DOWN HERE, WOULD ANYONE FIGURE OUT WHY THEY DON’T? QUALIFICATION OF LABOR FORCE MAYBE? LOLOL.. IN SFBJ TODAY Miami among cheapest big cities for business South Florida Business Journal with new owner driving fast growth Miami ranks as the third least-costly place to do business among 22 U.S. cities or metropolitan areas with populations exceeding 2 million, according to a newly released study by KPMG LLP. KPMG’s 2010 Competitive Alternatives study measured 26 significant cost components, including labor, taxes, real estate and utilities, as they apply to 17 industries over a 10-year… Read more »

DJ

If anything, I think the fact that gixxer has said repeatedly that he’s thinking about moving here and buying a place, would signify that he obviously doesn’t have an agenda to try and boost the market. That makes no sense at all. If he did have an agenda, he would be one of the ones posting all doom and gloom stories in hopes that he could get a lower price.

Bottom line, if anyone thinks people’s comments here have any meaningful impact on the miami RE market, you’re nuts.

Carlos

Publisehd in the NYT yesterday. Nice plans..are they going to happen and take off? Only time will tell. A SoHo Visionary Makes an Artsy Bet in Miami By TERRY PRISTIN MIAMI — The developer Tony Goldman is known for envisioning thriving and architecturally appealing neighborhoods where others see only desolation or neglect. He was a major force in the revival of SoHo and South Beach, and has invested his time and money transforming small stretches of Center City Philadelphia and the financial district in New York. Now, Mr. Goldman’s effort to work the same magic in Wynwood, a former industrial… Read more »

Gixxer 1000

DJ, “If anything, I think the fact that gixxer has said repeatedly that he’s thinking about moving here and buying a place, would signify that he obviously doesn’t have an agenda to try and boost the market. That makes no sense at all. If he did have an agenda, he would be one of the ones posting all doom and gloom stories in hopes that he could get a lower price.” Thank you for using common sense. I’m right now deciding between moving back to NY and attending Columbia or moving to Miami and attending UM, I was put on… Read more »

Gixxer 1000

Carlos, Funny how you like articles that spin case-shiller as negative but I can play that game as well. Here a article that spins the same number as slightly positive: http://therealdeal.com/miami/articles/s-p-case-shiller-home-price-declines-letting-up-in-miami-and-nationwide But instead of listening to the spin just look at the numbers and decide for yourself: Feb 09 154.28 Mar 09 148.87 Apr 09 145.77 May 09 144.59 Jun 09 145.37 Jul 09 147.27 Aug 09 148.91 Sep 09 149.69 Oct 09 149.09 Nov 09 149.08 Dec 09 148.66 Jan 10 148.32 The latest month to month drop was .2%. No that’s not 2% that .2%. Or 1/5th of… Read more »

Lara

Carlos, a good portion of this article is from 5-6 years ago when expectations were really high for the area. It will take years and years but I am sure it will happen. We all hoped that it should be sooner. Life and reality plays its own game.

I still like the potential of the area. It is though for people with a lot of money who can wait.

Carlos

Gixxer,

I have already told you: I respect your point of view even if you have never lived in Miami and knows nothing about it. You believe in published statistics which can be distorted according to interests. But if you actually lived here, you would be able to see what is true info and what is data to convince outsiders.
You are bullish and I am bearish ( or realistic ).
That’s all.
If you ever move down here, we may begin to discuss. Other than that, I rest my case.

Renter Tom

I agree with DJ….this blog doesn’t affect the real estate market here in any measurable manner. I have also said that we are much closer to the bottom than the top, but we are not at the bottom in the Miami area yet. There are more deals in SFH than condos, but if you can get it at the right price (assuming you research any HOA), then go ahead and buy. BUT what is the RUSH? Once we reach the bottom we’ll be there for a long time and the price increases will be NIL in REAL DOLLAR terms. THERE… Read more »

Gixxer 1000

Carlos, How and why is data from U.S Census, U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, MLS, MPD police reports, case-shiller home price index, IRS tax returns all manipulated to convince outsiders??? Either six people were murdered in Miami beach or they weren’t. I understand that statistics can be manipulated, which is why I usually just post the statistics and not the spin that comes along with them. You can call a .2% drop in the case-shiller index a decline and be correct. I can say that the .2% drop is less than last months .3% drop and shows prices are stabilizing… Read more »

Joe

Gixxer 1000 — Here you go again with the Miami vs. Manhattan comparison. How many times do we have to tell you: Those two areas don’t even belong in the same sentence.

Further, don’t be a liar. It’s not clear *at all* that you simply cut-and-pasted the crime data incorrectly. Your original commentary was *clearly* based on the incorrect data.

Realestatecashflow

Greener the better, bring it on!

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